Is the Psy-Q development kit abandonware?

[LameGuy64]

I wanna know exactly if this is true as I'm planning to release a lightweight, repackaged version of the PsyQ development kit specifically for beginners and the like.

It is pretty much the same as the full development kit but without the unnecessary guff (such as command-line tools for the DTL-H2000) making it 70% smaller in uncompressed form and comes prepackaged with useful tools such as WinBin2Src, DiscPatcher, Orion's version of catflap, the 32-bit version of stripiso, and no$psx (with credit to nocash obviously).

[Administrator]

I believe it is, but it can't be true abandonware because SN Systems still exists.

It is better to not repack the Psy-Q SDK. It's better to leave some things alone.
I say this because much like when I got into PSX development, I downloaded the Psy-Q SDK from the Internet and it was already altered. I just wanted the exact 1:1 copy that Sony released. However, because there were so many alterations floating around, I settled with having Avanaboy help me clean it. Now though, I finally have the original Psy-Q 1:1 copies available for download and they work fine. If you really do go ahead and repack it, make sure that you clearly place a text file stating that this Psy-Q SDK has been altered, and what exactly has been altered.

[LameGuy64]

Hmm, I think it's safe to say that anyone can use the SDK as long as it is used for non-commercial purposes.

The reason why I wanted to do this repack is because I think that the overabundance of folders and duplicates in the full SDK will seriously confuse beginners, so I thought it would be nice to make a repacked version of the SDK that is smaller, less confusing, and includes easy to understand samples so that beginners and new comers can get into PlayStation homebrew development easily without much hassle... To prevent confusion with the full SDK, I'll be calling it Psy-Q Lite.

Of course, I will clearly state that the SDK had been altered (in case Psy-Q Lite isn't obvious enough) and will provide a link to this site where the complete SDK can be found as well as a list of changes I've made.

[jman]

The reason why I wanted to do this repack is because I think that the overabundance of folders and duplicates in the full SDK will seriously confuse beginners, so I thought it would be nice to make a repacked version of the SDK that is smaller, less confusing, and includes easy to understand samples so that beginners and new comers can get into PlayStation homebrew development easily without much hassle... To prevent confusion with the full SDK, I'll be calling it Psy-Q Lite.

Just a thought: can you prepare a batch script to turn the stock SDK to your Lite version?
This way you're not touching the original one and you're on the safe side.

[Administrator]

The reason why I wanted to do this repack is because I think that the overabundance of folders and duplicates in the full SDK will seriously confuse beginners, so I thought it would be nice to make a repacked version of the SDK that is smaller, less confusing, and includes easy to understand samples so that beginners and new comers can get into PlayStation homebrew development easily without much hassle... To prevent confusion with the full SDK, I'll be calling it Psy-Q Lite.

Just a thought: can you prepare a batch script to turn the stock SDK to your Lite version?
This way you're not touching the original one and you're on the safe side.

That is a very clever idea.

[LameGuy64]

My idea is to make a version of the Psy-Q SDK that is cleaner and has pretty much everything necessary (additional tools and an emulator) included in a single small package which is ideal for beginners who want to quickly get into PlayStation homebrew development... I don't think this can be done through a batch script but I'll see what I can do about it.

The only difference in my version is that duplicates, old libraries, and tools for using the DTL-H2000 have been removed (because not everyone owns such a device) making it 70% smaller than the full SDK (my lite SDK right now is roughly 70MB uncompressed while the full SDK is roughly 500MB uncompressed).

Also, the complete SDK is readily available in the Downloads section anyway which anyone can download if they want to. My version is in no way meant to replace the full SDK but is instead a smaller alternative tailored for beginners who don't own or use the official development hardware.

[SCPH-1002]

There's allready a lite version of sonys software developement kit, it's called net yaroze.

I just wanted the exact 1:1 copy that Sony released. Now though, I finally have the original Psy-Q 1:1 copies available for download and they work fine.

You talk about the download at the psxdev main, right?

[LameGuy64]

There's allready a lite version of sonys software developement kit, it's called net yaroze.

There are many essential tools and libraries that are missing in that kit. Also, getting programs compiled with it to work is a pain as libps.exe is required before loading the main program from what I've read.

You talk about the download at the psxdev main, right?

Yes, where else can I find the complete version of the SDK?

[Tommy]

Abandonware is a term with no legal basis — if want to know whether you're likely to get sued then you need to make that judgment on its own merits. Legally speaking, you could be. But how much would that cost and what would the claimant expect to gain? As a general rule, people sue in order to achieve something, not simply because they can.