Black & white image on SCPH-1002 and there is no pointer

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Black & white image on SCPH-1002 and there is no pointer

Post by djstkg » April 20th, 2023, 11:06 am

Hi guys,

I got SCPH-1002 with black and white screen as shown in pictures
1681948467828.jpg
1681948467805.jpg
1681948467818.jpg
it seems that marked components are burned. Can you tell me what those are?
1681948467780.jpg
1681948467793.jpg
Also, there is no pointer, I guess that is another problem?
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Post by nocash » April 20th, 2023, 2:55 pm

Looks like luma (brightness) without chroma (color).
Does your TV support PAL video? How is it wired up, Composite, S-video?
I couldn't say if the components are dirty, melted, or exploded.
But they look like resistors or inductors. That's easy to replace.
Use a multimeter to check if they are wired to the video output pins, and have a look at the service manual schematics.

If other components re also damaged, and you can't boot/play games at all, that's more difficult.

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Post by Shadow » April 20th, 2023, 3:36 pm

I'm certain they're just covered in old flux. It's difficult to tell without either cleaning them or testing them with a multimeter. As NO$CASH said, they're just inductors and they're cheap to replace anyway. Also check the RGB (colour) encoder chip which also looks like it's covered in the burnt flux (like the inductors). From the bad lighting, it even looks like it has a hole in it.

My bet would be to make sure you're not using an NTSC system on a TV which doesn't support PAL (or vice versa) as mentioned. Seeming as your board is a PU-8, you'll need a separate oscillator to drive the correct colour burst frequency to get colour on your TV.

If my memory is right, there is no pointer present if no controller is plugged in (it's just part of how Sony handled the controller logic in the BIOS).
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Post by djstkg » April 20th, 2023, 8:34 pm

Hi guys,
thanks for your support.

Jup, the console is SCPH-1002 so should be PAL, right? And my TV is definitely PAL as it is bought in Europe. So I would say this is fine. Will reconfirm with TV Model later.

I connected 3 cinch cable via AV MULTI OUT directly to my TV.

Regarding components on the PCB, I tried cleaning a bit with a finger, and some layer went off directly, thats why those components on the right are kinda whitey, they were previously black. Could I here wash carefully with soapy water (like many do) to get it clean?

Regarding pointer, yup I tried with a controller that works on my other PS1 5xxx, so I guess there is something else. Also tried both slots.

And of course, since it is SCPH-1002, CD is dead; no spin but laser head goes up/down. I plan on replacing from SCPH-102 anyhow.
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Post by djstkg » April 20th, 2023, 8:39 pm

P.S. I got service manuals for 5xxx,7xxx and 9xxx from here

https://www.jonathandupre.fr/articles/1 ... -scph-1002

do you have one also for 1xxx?
nocash wrote: April 20th, 2023, 2:55 pm Looks like luma (brightness) without chroma (color).
Does your TV support PAL video? How is it wired up, Composite, S-video?
I couldn't say if the components are dirty, melted, or exploded.
But they look like resistors or inductors. That's easy to replace.
Use a multimeter to check if they are wired to the video output pins, and have a look at the service manual schematics.

If other components re also damaged, and you can't boot/play games at all, that's more difficult.

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Post by djstkg » April 21st, 2023, 12:48 am

Or, should I use only alcohol for motherboard cleaning?

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Post by djstkg » April 21st, 2023, 1:44 am

So, those blacked marked components are going to SERIAL IO and R / L Audio.

Similar looking components can be found on the PCB, in the pic above on the right margin in the vicinity of ABCDEFGH exactly next to DE. Those similar looking are having marking "431" and those seems to be diodes as (if I am not wrong) are having polarity marking.
djstkg wrote: April 20th, 2023, 11:06 am Hi guys,

I got SCPH-1002 with black and white screen as shown in pictures

1681948467828.jpg
1681948467805.jpg
1681948467818.jpg

it seems that marked components are burned. Can you tell me what those are?

1681948467780.jpg
1681948467793.jpg

Also, there is no pointer, I guess that is another problem?

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Post by Shadow » April 21st, 2023, 1:55 am

The flux used by the factories Sony went with isn't water soluble. Alcohol will help dissolve it, but you'll need to use something like a toothbrush to help assist with breaking it down further into the solution.

There is no service manual for the PU-7 or PU-8.
Development Console: SCPH-5502 with 8MB RAM, MM3 Modchip, PAL 60 Colour Modification (for NTSC), PSIO Switch Board, DB-9 breakout headers for both RGB and Serial output and an Xplorer with CAETLA 0.34.

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Post by djstkg » April 21st, 2023, 6:42 am

Ok, thanks, will give it a go.

Btw, regarding missing pointer, it might be that my joystick slots PCB is broken, so it won't detect anything even if there is a joystick there. Will try to swap with another one and let you know.
Shadow wrote: April 21st, 2023, 1:55 am The flux used by the factories Sony went with isn't water soluble. Alcohol will help dissolve it, but you'll need to use something like a toothbrush to help assist with breaking it down further into the solution.

There is no service manual for the PU-7 or PU-8.

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Post by djstkg » April 21st, 2023, 10:33 am

So just finished my tampering with a bunch of PS1 and PSOne that came today to be sacrificed.

To my surprise and delight, they all showed black and white screens, therefore it must be due to the TV. Which is very strange since it's European TV.

I fitted a joystick port from one gutted PS1 and voila, it works. I don't know if it's the ribbon or electronics on the old one, I am tired to investigate at the moment.

And also fitted a BAM laser from PSOne donor and it works like a charm.

The only part missing now is a 5 pin power supply, which will come in soon.

BTW. haven't done any cleaning of the board.

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